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  1. #21
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    Still getting the Vbulletin version in MD.

    Graham

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    That's good :-) This migration (step 1) was to move the existing vBulletin instance to the new Hoster. Step 2 is moving from vBulletin to Invision. We could have simply done both migrations at the same time, but that can introduce issues that are much harder to track down. I'll provide un update on migration #2 and update post 1 with those details later today.

    Thanks,
    John
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    '68 Lotus Elan FHC
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    '95 Porsche 993 C2
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    For those of you keeping score at home, we nearly had a successful migration on Sunday for the first hop to the new hoster. The site started to come back online after ~90 minutes, and was working well, so I attempted to install Invision (the fancy, new forum software platform) on the servers to begin the prep work for the second and final migration. It wouldn't work. Turns out Invision needs PHP 7.1 or later, and we were running PHP 5.6 in our vBulletin installation. Since our version of vBulletin is compatible with PHP 7.1, the simple fix was for our hoster to update our PHP to 7.1. That's when things went sideways and truly bizarre and random issues began to spring up. It turns out that some past customization to our forum was not compatible with PHP 7.1 and it started throwing a tantrum. The fix was to downgrade back to PHP 5.6.

    The bad news is that we have no idea what is causing the incompatibility, so the original plan of me spending a couple of leisurely weeks preparing the new invision forum for the migration from vBulletin, won't work since I can't install it while we are still running PHP 5.6 (I never thought I would write the letters PHP so many times in a post, but I digress). The new plan is to take down the forum at 7am PT on Sunday, February 14th. As soon as it's down, we'll upgrade PHP to 7.1, I'll install the Invision software, get things as settled as possible, then we'll migrate the data and return with all the existing content (your posts PMs, attachments, etc) on the new forum, ready for you to post at will. Realistically this process will take all day Sunday, but if there are issues, it could bleed into Monday.

    Although the new forum will be working correctly, some of the improvements we have planned around articles and downloads won't yet be available and will follow in the coming weeks. How does that saying go about the best laid plans of Se7ens and drivers?

    -John
    '95 Westfield SEiW w/2.0L Duratec
    '68 Lotus Elan FHC
    '91 Miata w/Flyin Miata suspension & brakes
    '95 Porsche 993 C2
    '86 Porsche 944 turbo (neglected project car)
    Throttle Steer

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    Thanks for all of your efforts on our behalf - know this isn't easy, but also know it will be great on the other side!
    Henry
    1965 Seven S2
    1969 Elan S4

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    John: Sounds about right for something involving se7ens

    A day (or two or three) are worth it

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    Given my involvement, anyone who followed my engine rebuild saga, shouldn't find any of this surprising

    -John
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    '68 Lotus Elan FHC
    '91 Miata w/Flyin Miata suspension & brakes
    '95 Porsche 993 C2
    '86 Porsche 944 turbo (neglected project car)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCh View Post
    For those of you keeping score at home, we nearly had a successful migration on Sunday for the first hop to the new hoster. The site started to come back online after ~90 minutes, and was working well, so I attempted to install Invision (the fancy, new forum software platform) on the servers to begin the prep work for the second and final migration. It wouldn't work. Turns out Invision needs PHP 7.1 or later, and we were running PHP 5.6 in our vBulletin installation. Since our version of vBulletin is compatible with PHP 7.1, the simple fix was for our hoster to update our PHP to 7.1. That's when things went sideways and truly bizarre and random issues began to spring up. It turns out that some past customization to our forum was not compatible with PHP 7.1 and it started throwing a tantrum. The fix was to downgrade back to PHP 5.6.

    The bad news is that we have no idea what is causing the incompatibility, so the original plan of me spending a couple of leisurely weeks preparing the new invision forum for the migration from vBulletin, won't work since I can't install it while we are still running PHP 5.6 (I never thought I would write the letters PHP so many times in a post, but I digress). The new plan is to take down the forum at 7am PT on Sunday, February 14th. As soon as it's down, we'll upgrade PHP to 7.1, I'll install the Invision software, get things as settled as possible, then we'll migrate the data and return with all the existing content (your posts PMs, attachments, etc) on the new forum, ready for you to post at will. Realistically this process will take all day Sunday, but if there are issues, it could bleed into Monday.

    Although the new forum will be working correctly, some of the improvements we have planned around articles and downloads won't yet be available and will follow in the coming weeks. How does that saying go about the best laid plans of Se7ens and drivers?

    -John
    Haha. This is just like pulling the engine on my Seven to repair a failed piston ring land. As long as the engine is out there will never be a better time to thoroughly clean the engine bay and trans tunnel. Wow, look what I found, a cracked chassis tube....and another....and pretty soon the skins are off and it's a full blown rivets up restoration and reconstruction!

    Absolutely classic requirements creep!

    Hang in there.
    Ron

    '14 Evora IPS
    '84 Turbo Esprit
    '77 S1 (deceased)
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    In fairness we had been deferring updates on the existing vBulletin for years given it is a buggy mess in the latest iteration but we had not reached the level of pain to find a new forum software to replace vBulletin. So this was always going to be a catch up.

    Just be thankful that this is not going like the L7C forum/website rebuild - that was a disaster.
    Mike
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    1985 Holden Commodore Group A (suspension set up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croc View Post
    Just be thankful that this is not going like the L7C forum/website rebuild - that was a disaster.
    Don't. Jinx. It.
    '95 Westfield SEiW w/2.0L Duratec
    '68 Lotus Elan FHC
    '91 Miata w/Flyin Miata suspension & brakes
    '95 Porsche 993 C2
    '86 Porsche 944 turbo (neglected project car)
    Throttle Steer

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    It's a common tale with software platforms that support plugins. Nobody is responsible for maintaining the whole and rarely does the platform owner test the plugins against new version, or vice versa. In my Porsche club we are dealing with similar issues with WordPress. By mid-summer we will be migrating to a different platform and clean up the mess.
    1987 Caterham 1700 Supersprint
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