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Thread: Ebay and Craigslist ads - Lots of Sevens for sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croc View Post
    I give him 3 weeks before he buys another.
    Three weeks....that long, ay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcarguy View Post
    Three weeks....that long, ay?
    So says the guy that puts Red Bull in his gas tank so his cars have "wings".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro Bob View Post
    I had an issue purchasing a car sight unseen on Craigslist that Croc had found and posted.
    Figures it would be my fault!
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgedodson View Post
    Has anyone had issues buying a 7 from Craigslist, especially from some distance away?
    Yes I seem to recall buying a certain maroon seven sight unseen on Ebay after a inhaling 1.5 bottles of red wine in a boozy night with Yellowss7, JeffH and Simon15....

    ....fortunately the car was better than my next morning.

    I also recall doing it with other cars....

    Make the effort to go and see it if you want to be sure.
    Mike
    2010 Caterham CSR with Cosworth 2.3 Duratec
    2018 Caterham 420R with 2L Duratec 210hp at Donington UK
    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration - engine and dry sump install time)
    1977 Holden Torana "A9X" (awaiting restoration)
    1985 Holden Commodore Group A (restoration - engine rebuild)
    1982 Ferrari 400i (will repaint to original color in 2020)
    1965 Ford Mustang Fastback "Holman Moody"
    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC (fettling after long period of storage)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croc View Post
    Figures it would be my fault!
    Ah, but the joy of 2.5 years ownership of that gem in the slightly rough that you so diligently presented on "Any Given Sunday" when not too hung over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro Bob View Post
    So says the guy that puts Red Bull in his gas tank so his cars have "wings".
    Pee Wee just sent me a pm. Says Less is devastated over the loss of the Storker and is molting. Says youíve gone off the deep end...now youíre selling your trailer. How you gonna get your next Storker home?
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    Mine came through this forum. 100 miles away. I went the day after the ad to see and made the deal. Had to make a second run with a trailer. I'm sure it would have been sold if I had delayed. If one is a REALLY good deal, you need to strike immediately. A car either sells immediately, if a great deal. Or, after it's been listed for a few weeks (+?) and the owner finally realizes it's over priced. Only had one bad experience long distance, and it was from a friend. Chassis rust on a Stablimenti Farina bodied Siata. In any case, I advise budget for a quick trip, even if it's not for final delivery, if there is no local person to inspect it. I inspected a Gullwing for a dealer; sent him 3 rolls of photos: walked around on the cell phone with him for 20 minutes, answering detailed questions. Fun test drive!

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    I understand. That was why I posted earlier about hiring a company to go out and perform an inspection of the car. The advertise that this will cost between $200 and $400 and it seemed like a good idea. I would probably be willing to look at a car in my area for a fellow poster, or lend advice on nuclear physics or particle accelerators.

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    I have inspected cars for forum members to help save a flight. This forum is pretty widely located across North America so a good chance someone will pitch in and help out if you put a request out on the forum, especially if in one of the population centers on the east and west coasts.
    Mike
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    2018 Caterham 420R with 2L Duratec 210hp at Donington UK
    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration - engine and dry sump install time)
    1977 Holden Torana "A9X" (awaiting restoration)
    1985 Holden Commodore Group A (restoration - engine rebuild)
    1982 Ferrari 400i (will repaint to original color in 2020)
    1965 Ford Mustang Fastback "Holman Moody"
    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC (fettling after long period of storage)
    1990 Range Rover 2 door Classic

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    My long distance se7en buying experience is as follows:
    I found a Caterham locally and drove it, jut to confirm I wasn't crazy to buy one (I was but it turns out being crazy is why I liked it).

    1] I bought Caterham #1, sight unseen from this thread. AFAIK, it was the first one sold here when I bought it in '07. It was built by Sevens and Elans and I flew to NJ, bought it from its first owner who had put 10K miles on it and I drove it 500 miles home. It was bullet proof, except for a nagging elec short that would strand me at the worst possible times/places. But always self heal after 30' and off I'd go. We finally sorted it and all was well. I put 12K miles on it and listed it here but sold it thru an intermediary.

    2] I bought a Birkin with roughly double the power of my X-Flow. Unfortunately, it had been poorly assembled by Texas Motor Works. I did inspect it before buying. I took it for a 10 mile spin and it was perfect. Turned out that if I had gone another mile, it would have broken down, like it did immediately after I got it home (in a trailer) and I wld have saved myself 3 years of frustration and $. Finally sold it here, for a huge loss.

    3] Car # 3 is my current Caterham. I bought it sight unseen based on photos at Rocky
    Mountain Motorsport where it was listed as a favor to the owner.It was professionally built but had a long history as a race car and was very, very (very) worn out. But the price reflected that and it had all the safety stuff that wld be major bucks to duplicate. It has been pretty challenging to keep it operational. I like to say, half kiddingly, that the only thing that hasn't been replaced is the battery.

    Lessons: Know your builder. I favor the home assembled se7ens of all stripes. They tend to have been lovingly and meticulously assembled, then driven a year or two to smoke out any issues.

    Know your seller: if you buy it from a poster here, odds are the price and presentation are honest. Next best: get to know the seller if they are a stranger. Ask lots of questions. Most are still somewhat in love with their car and love talking abt it and will want it to go to a good home. So get them talking, you will learns tons abt the car AND abt them-and whether they are trustworthy.

    Don't buy a used race car.

    Beware of 12 year old cars with 900 miles etc. Why were they driven so little (never ran?). They were likely not well maintained either. Plus all rubber parts like tires, engine mounts, etc, will have seriously deteriorated.

    Buy cars that were used at track days. Sure, it's hard on them, but they are survivors, they have been tested, fixed, tested, fixed. And up-grade-itis is a known condition that we track junkies suffer from, so our cars frequently have had expensive improvements that are not reflected in the selling price.

    Sure, get an inspection, or take it for a spin yourself. Why not? It will reveal anything obvious, esp to an experienced owner, like Croc. He knows how a Caterham rides, drives, feels, and the noise it makes and doesn't make. So the obvious stuff will be clear. I am not sure a professional car inspector, with no Caterham or other se7en experience, will know what to think. The car is so mind-blowing it's easy to get caught up in that and miss stuff. Also, will they fit into the car for a test, will their feet fit into the tiny foot well, and will they have ear and eye protection needed to take it for a spin. Just another way of saying the inspector should ideally have experience with the model se7en they are examining.

    Even with an inspection, it is very hard to know what will be wrong until after a bit of use. For example, I have had 2 half shafts snap. An inspection is not likely to have found that. A coupla bolts came loose on my flywheel. Only found that out when we pulled the engine out to replace the clutch. Two axle boots came off at a track day-they looked great before hand. Etc., etc.

    Happy hunting, finding and buying the right se7en is a big part of the experience.
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