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    Schroth enduros are my fav harnesses. Much faster to put on and take off than any other set o have used. Fia and sfi rated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hole View Post
    You may want to consider the Schroth Profi II ASM

    I have the Profi II ASM for my 7. (not fitted yet). I plan to run just the four harness, would contemplate adding the extra two for the track but it's not necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senna223 View Post
    I have the Profi II ASM for my 7. (not fitted yet). I plan to run just the four harness, would contemplate adding the extra two for the track but it's not necessary.
    The USA7s event is held in New Jersey and they do not allow a four point system. Either the factory three point or you need to go with the sub straps, hence why I have them. I don't know how common it is for states / tracks to not allow the four point. I use the snap in connectors for the sub belts so they can be removed or just left on the floor. I have a SV chassis so I have plenty of room to get at the belts with the seats in.
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    Thanks all - I think I will order the Schroth Profi II ASM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hole View Post
    The USA7s event is held in New Jersey and they do not allow a four point system. Either the factory three point or you need to go with the sub straps, hence why I have them. I don't know how common it is for states / tracks to not allow the four point. I use the snap in connectors for the sub belts so they can be removed or just left on the floor. I have a SV chassis so I have plenty of room to get at the belts with the seats in.
    Sorry Jay - thats no longer correct. Its 5/6 point only now in open cars at NJMP. No 4 points unless closed roof. The formerly allowed DOT 3 point belt usage in a Caterham was taken away 2 years back after I had a hissy fit with NJMP inspectors around 4 point Caterham belts without an expiry date (they changed the policy without notifying people). They would not let me run the 4 pointers so I held them to a strict legal read of their belts policy and went out using the DOT 3 pointer belts in my old maroon Caterham. Won the day but lost the war.

    Yet they let 50 year old Porsche 911 DOT belts out on track without an issue.... The screwed up logic is impressive.

    The NJ rules have tightened up in recent years as the State Trooper who oversees the NJMP track has changed and the new individual applies a strict constructionist legal interpretation. I don't mind strict safety rules but I do object to inconsistent interpretations applied willy nilly as you cannot prepare effectively in advance without some consistent policy being worked out with the circuit in advance.
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    Be aware that more and more organizations, including PCA starting in 2019 require a HANS device if you have a harness other than a three point seat belt. If you show up at a PCA track event without the HANS device you will not be able to drive. This also applies to passengers, not just the driver. Pretty much kills parade laps in race prepared cars.
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    I had heard this. PCA needs it I think. Their accident rate for their track days is fairly well known for being quite high - possibly due to so many cars being in a session. Other groups don't have the same level of incidents unless you look at SCCA Spec Pinata...sorry Miata or any NASA event.

    Anyway, turn up in a Caterham at a PCA HPDE event and you will not be able to run even if you have a HANS. Thanks to a forum member redecorating his Caterham at Lime Rock, they were banned nationally as PCA policy in the aftermath.
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    2018 Caterham 420R with 2L Duratec 210hp at Donington UK
    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration - engine and dry sump install time)
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    1985 Holden Commodore SS Group A
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    Does njmp require arm restraints this year as well?
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    Yes. They always have required arm restraints for the last 5 or so years. I would never expect they would dial that requirement back.
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    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC (fettling after long period of storage)
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    How do you do point bys with arm restraints?
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