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Thread: Save the Date - 2020 Annual Sevens HPDE Event at NJMP - October 17/18, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croc View Post
    Karting booked out the accommodation? Wow That’s a first. Never seen that happen in 10 years.
    Some first timer I'm being told.

    Looks like I missed it by just a few weeks. Live and learn. Still doing better than last year already with the closer hotel reservation.
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    Please no swapping belts in the hotel parking lot at midnight this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croc View Post
    Please no swapping belts in the hotel parking lot at midnight this time.
    Is that something kinky? Pants?

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    Question for NJMP seasoned Vets

    My rear 888's are approaching the wear mark. They aren't on it yet but they are getting close to it.

    NJMP form for cars just says this "Tires: absolutely no cord showing"

    I'd like to finish the season off on these before getting new ones for next year.

    I will bring the spare set of "race wheels" just in case.

    I talked to Kraus about ordering a set of better tires but not sure if I want to bite the bullet on $1100 just yet this season if I don't have to.


    So is approaching the wear bar a concern or they literally care about cords showing?
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    The answer is that it depends.

    You can run at the wear bars as cord would not be showing. BUT, itís not far from there to cords showing.

    An example, I went out on Lightning circuit at the wear bars once and mid way through the session could see cords and stopped immediately.

    Admittedly the Thunderbolt Circuit is not as abrasive at destroying tires but you take a risk.

    There is a very good chance you will run out of tire at the event and will need a back up set of wheels/tires in order to keep running. Otherwise you are not allowed on track.

    Does that make sense?
    Mike
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    Vlad, it's an easy decision really. You'll be faster on new tires.
    Mangia bene, Ridi spesso, Ama molto, Guidare veloce

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    Default Save the Date - 2020 Annual Sevens HPDE Event at NJMP - October 8-10, 2020

    Bad tires usually lead to the following outcome


    Mike
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    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration finished - track set up time)
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    Iíve looked around trying to figure out the HPDE rules for the NJMP event. Havenít found much so Iíll ask a couple of questions specific to me.

    Iíve done about 5 HPDE events with different clubs but never enough with any club to have enough sessions to be promoted out of the novice group. I have no evidence of those past events.

    My car has a road roll bar.

    Will I be able to drive on the track?
    Will I have an assigned instructor? (Iíd rather not.)
    Do I need an FIA roll bar or cage?
    Will I have to run with a windscreen because of the broomstick test? (Iíd rather not.)

    Thanks

    Sander

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    I can cut and paste them here in a few hours once I get home.
    Mike
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    2018 Caterham 420R with 2L Duratec 210hp at Donington UK
    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration finished - track set up time)
    1977 Holden Torana "A9X" (awaiting restoration)
    1985 Holden Commodore SS Group A (suspension restoration)
    1985 Holden Commodore Group A (suspension set up)
    1982 Ferrari 400i (radiator replacement)
    1965 Ford Mustang Fastback "Holman Moody"
    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC (dyno time)
    1990 Range Rover 2 door Classic
    and another project car coming....

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    Vlad: if you have back-up wheel/tires bring them. But I don't think the wear bars are a big deal as long as it stays dry. Tire tread is only there to deal with wet conditions.The less tread, the faster you will be, that's why folks shave their new tires for track use. Or buy "slicks" with no tread. Of course, if they are heat cycled out, they won't be much fun in any event.

    I once ran thu a set of tires at the NJMP event and was kindly lent a spare set from Karl, whose Caterham YellowSS is the current custodian of.

    I also once failed to notice a corded tire on my old Miata and the tube finally burst thru the tire carcass, but never exploded. Instead, it blew up so large it filled the entire wheel well and could no longer spin. I kid you not.

    SanderGA: As far as being a novice, just keep a sharp eye on your mirrors for cars on your bumper. Some cars/drivers are much faster than others. No one will care how slow you are, unless you hold them up and won't let them by. Having run in every category over the years, I can say the single defining characteristic of the "advanced" group drivers is constant situational awareness, including being alert to giving point-byes.

    Croc or Tom will know, but I don't see a problem with you running without an instructor/windshield and with the stock roll-over bar. You will need a full face helmet. NJMP, as has been noted, is totally anal abt expired belts and 5-6 pt belts, not 3 point ones. After that, its up to you. HANS is not needed. Typically, we se7en drivers run with arm/wrist restraints. They are not required but are cheap insurance for keeping them out of harm's way.(EDIT:wrist/arm restraints ARE required, as Croc notes below, sorry!).
    Last edited by Kitcat; 08-20-2020 at 12:06 PM.
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