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    Question Any one seen this Caterham before?

    Anyone got any info on this car? It is a Caterham Series 3, it has been verified by Caterham as original, the car was supplied to a dealer in Massachusetts (close to Boston) in August or September 1980. It was shipped as a complete kit, but excluding engine, gearbox, rear axle, front uprights & front wishbones, the engine mounting bracket did fit the 1600 Crossflow, the radiator was TwinCam type and bonnet was Crossflow type. Now it has a Ford Pinto OHC RS2000 engine. It was registered in US, If any one here knows about it, please let me....
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    I would modify that story slightly. That is not a crossflow bonnet. Crossflows did not need the hood bulge (nor did the Twin Cam). It was likely custom made/modified for the Pinto engine which is tall. Caterham did test a Pinto engine in a Caterham in the early 90s but found it was too tall, difficult to source. very heavy and probably many other reasons.

    The Chris Rees book on Caterham refers to this factory experiment. Only a single car was completed for the Pinto test.
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    Thank you for your reply, the information in the story is from Caterham factory, they told me how the kit was delivered.

    You are right, it does not have a crossflow bonnet at the pictures and that is exactly why I do seek information about the car, I want to know it’s history, perhaps some one did own it as a 1600 crossflow - that is why I think the information is important to keep

    Funny about Chris Rees book, perhaps this is the single car made with Pinto? Where can I find the article online?

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    If the car was supplied to a Caterham dealer close to Boston, that would be Sevens and Elans. They have moved their (one man) operation to St Augustine Fl, where the owner, Chris Tchorznicki, has a shop full of Caterhams in for repairs and ongoing restoration projects. I am sure he'd be happy to discuss what appears to be a interesting, if not aesthetically pleasing, project.
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    Okay, I have also been told that it could have been DSK Cars in Marblehead, Mass.

    do do you have any contact information for Chris from Sevens and Elans?

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    You'll find the phone number here: http://www.sevenselans.com/sevens_home.htm
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    I don't think you have the Caterham test original - timing would be off by 10+ years since 1) based on factory doc you think your car came here in 1980 and the Caterham exercise was in the UK in the early 1990s, and 2) you have an LHD car - Caterham would have used an RHD Car.

    DSK would be an interesting exercise. They did everything from kit builds to modified kits to outright custom replica builds for historic racing. Can you use the following website details and technical drawings to see any similarities of DSK modifications on your chassis? Focus particularly on the rear end.
    http://www.simplesevens.org/dsk/index.htm
    Mike
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    The "1980" importation date would predate Sevens and Elans which didn't start until a few years later.

    "Boston" + "1980" = DSK to me. At least the importation part, and any suspension updates.

    Some thoughts on picking up the trail: get in touch with people who used to be peripherally involved with or familiar with DSK operations in the day. Pat Prince for example. He might remember something or know who to point you to.

    Another thought: post on Apexspeed. There are still a LOT of NE US formula car folks active on that site who were also just as active (if not more) circa 1980. Some of those guys have photographic memories of every FF chassis, one-off, and/or Caterham special that passed through the region at the time. Heck, it's possible an ex-owner of that very car is on Apexspeed...


    Also, where were those current photos taken? Those look like the US, in the last few years.

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    Innominatus, thank you for your reply.

    the pictures were taken is US by the former owner (I do not know who he is), before the car was exported to Europe....

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    I don’t think it was Sevens and Elans who sold this car. I believe my car was the first Caterham Chris sold in 1985.
    Jon
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