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    Default Zetec 2.0

    Wrecked mine dropped a main bearing and I am sure a rod in in the cylinder from the noise it is making now, so any suggestions on where to source a new/used one
    I would prefer another built unit
    Any pointers on who rebuilds/Sells Zetec race engines?

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    I think Quicksilver racing in Maryland did Michael D's zetec, and I believe Turbo Tom is currently rebuilding Kitcat's.
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    Quicksilver in MD has been the long time preference around the east coast for rebuilding Zetecs
    http://quicksilverraceengines.com/
    Mike
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    Thanks Croc Reached out to them

    Yellow7 Who is Turbo Tom?

    An excuse my ignorance regarding this but:
    I have been advised that switching to a 1.6 ecoboost (that will drop in) is the way to go rather than building another Zetec.
    More power even if stock than a replacement Ford Racing Zetec and a hell of a lot cheaper.
    And if I am down on power something I can build over time with HP parts.
    I guess I could get a short block Zetec an reuse my heads?

    Its all about cost now, the Cat is beginning to take a toll on my cashflow, with the $$ I have spent getting her roadworthy and looking pretty I could have imported a new one and still had change for coffee.

    In addition I am totally confused on what way to go, my Zetec is going to be toast I am sure the noise from the engine was a dropped valve and the drive home after the fact sealed its fate.
    Would that damage the head as well?

    I will pull the plugs and look to see if there is damage to a piston but that noise was not something that was minor.

    That said I will talk to Quicksilver and see what they suggest

    Thanks Again for the help

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    I believe the Ecoboost is a turbo engine, so if you autocross that would put you in a different class.

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    As someone who has seen a lot of engine rebuilds in the last few years eg BMW CSL Group 4 race engine, Group A Holden, v12 Ferrari (shudders).....just think of the character building you are about to get! [emoji15]

    I genuinely know the pain you are going through - more than most.

    If you dropped a valve then figure your piston looks like the one below - in my example there were 6 others.... [emoji22]. It was an epic drive on track before that though! [emoji16]

    Pull the engine out, get it to a reputable expert to diagnose and work out next steps for a high end rebuild. Quicksilver have a streetable 220hp zetec strong build that a few forum members have bought.

    Or buy a $800-1000 engine out of a car being salvaged and drop it in as a temporary measure.

    Donít try a cheap high hp build - it never works.





    Mike
    2010 Caterham CSR with Cosworth 2.3 Duratec
    2018 Caterham 420R with 2L Duratec 210hp at Donington UK
    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration - engine and dry sump install time)
    1977 Holden Torana "A9X" (awaiting restoration)
    1985 Holden Commodore Group A (restoration - engine rebuild)
    1982 Ferrari 400i (will repaint to original color in 2020)
    1965 Ford Mustang Fastback "Holman Moody"
    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC (fettling after long period of storage)
    1990 Range Rover 2 door Classic

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    Yep Quicksilver seems to be the way to go a 1.6 eco is just too much work and as I am not doing it $$$$$$ for the labour
    QS quoted $3k just to strip and he had a ballpark of $6-8K to repair it.... this is going to be a really hard sell to the wife even if I hide 50% of the cost
    I am not looking forward to that conversation

    Anyone with one of those 220 HP Quicksilver engines?
    If so Please reach out to me

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    Sad thing is that I did not blink at that price. My BMW installation is many multiples...

    MichaelD had the 220hp Zetec Formula Atlantic streetable spec build done in 2015 but later sold his car to CarlB - both are on this forum.

    Jcerier (on this thread) is running a BDR build by Quicksilver, that was originally done in 2015 by Sabbot

    I think FE07 was contemplating work there at some point but don't know where that ended up.

    You could probably search for others under the key word "Quicksilver"
    Mike
    2010 Caterham CSR with Cosworth 2.3 Duratec
    2018 Caterham 420R with 2L Duratec 210hp at Donington UK
    1975 BMW CSL Group 4 (restoration - engine and dry sump install time)
    1977 Holden Torana "A9X" (awaiting restoration)
    1985 Holden Commodore Group A (restoration - engine rebuild)
    1982 Ferrari 400i (will repaint to original color in 2020)
    1965 Ford Mustang Fastback "Holman Moody"
    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC (fettling after long period of storage)
    1990 Range Rover 2 door Classic

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    When I contacted Quick Silver a few months ago they said the guy that built MichaelD's 220 hp Zetec was no longer there and that they were doing basically stock rebuilds.

    Brightonuk: I know what you mean about the (seemingly endless) cost. I try to think of it as a form of mental health therapy. And, in reality, if I had the money back I'd probably just waste it on something more expensive to maintain.
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    I'll chime in- I had some engine issues with my Zetec we just couldn't quite figure out until I called George Alderman and he knew right away what the issue was. So my engine work was done by him. New head gasket, head, cams, timing gear etc... Not really more power but more top end. Quicksilver does very nice work and I know the guys there from racing Vees. Great work- reputation for great expense.

    In regards to all the cost's with our crazy obsession- I guess as long as you're not making yourself broke or screwing up your retirement and you get enjoyment out of your 7 or race car- it's worthwhile. I get a little sick if I go back and look at all the receipts/costs but then I go in the garage and see my toys (even if I can't get em out on street or track yet cause of this freaking weather and the race car frame has been at a shop for the past 2 months and -and -and) it's all good!

    Coincidentally or perhaps ironically I'm typing this while I'm wearing a shirt I bought from Blipshift that has 3 words on it in the shape of a triangle: race-regret-repair. Been around that triangle more than a couple times but wouldn't give it up. Something special about car people. Doesn't matter if it's sports cars, race cars, muscle cars, old stuff- it's all interesting and there's always something to learn and see and bond over.

    Oh- and if you can- not a bad idea to NOT have those conversations with the wife!

    Jim

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