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    Quote Originally Posted by xcarguy View Post
    That’s a great looking car. And, how much is knee surgery?
    I'll get it done by Dr. Clarkson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrLJ8Ys91Xg

    Quote Originally Posted by rzempel View Post
    May I suggest you try sitting in a Birkin S3? Same overall dimensions as the Cat S3, but the pedal box has a large adjustment range.
    Just don't have an interest in a Birkin unfortunately, if I did it'd make things easier for me but my want for a Caterham S3 is irrational.


    Quote Originally Posted by Davemk1 View Post
    Welcome to the club....I'm 6' 4 1/2" and I don't fit in a small Seven. I do fit in the big Birkin and the Westfield that I ended up buying and building.

    dave
    Get me out of this tall people club. Sucks when someone reclines their seat on the airplane in an already tight seat layout with my knees rubbing against the seat table tray.

    I won't be able to revisit the Caterham I sat in for a little while, but I'll be in Florida for work (Palatka, ~25 min. from Jacksonville) from the 5th to the 12th. Are there any forum members who wouldn't mind me sitting in their S3 with a lowered floor or tillet seats/SV for a few minutes? I'd be willing to drive out a few hours to meet up with someone, would really appreciate the gesture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susej1981 View Post
    ....... I'll be in Florida for work (Palatka, ~25 min. from Jacksonville) from the 5th to the 12th. Are there any forum members who wouldn't mind me sitting in their S3 with a lowered floor or tillet seats/SV for a few minutes? I'd be willing to drive out a few hours to meet up with someone, would really appreciate the gesture.
    I understand about the height issue--I'm 6ft3in myself. I would love to have you sit in my SV, but while I am in Florida, I am FIVE HOURS west of Jacksonville on I-10, in Crestview. If you ever get over this way, give us a shout.
    Taber
    2007 Caterham 7 SV

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    The standard Birkin is much tighter than the Caterham you tried on. Birkin makes a larger (and more affordable) version similar to the Cat SV. I can't tell the S3 and SV Cats apart unless they are next to each other. Adding Tilet seats wld give you 2" more legroom and 1" more headroom. That's what I did to fit my lanky 5'9" frame into a standard Birkin S3. Unlike Cats, Birkins do have adjustable pedal assemblies. I like the Westfield option mentioned above, ditto the Stalker. In the car you tried did your head stick up past the roll-over bar? I think lowered floors would help with that but not sure they would help with legroom. A removable steering wheel might help get in and out, I use one on my track Cat. Also, there is no place to put one's left foot in a Caterham. On the track I hover it over the clutch which mite be hard if your leg is too long, on the road I slip it under the clutch pedal. Rather than perform drastic surgery on your legs, I wonder if the Caterham has a bit more room in the engine bay to extend the footwell via drastic surgery there?
    '97 Caterham Super Sprint, 1700 Crossflow-sold
    '09 Birkin S3, Duratec-sold
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    I'm 6'3" and fit fine in my SV. I almost have to pull the seat up

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    I wouldn't give up without a fight if a Seven is truly your dream car. I haven't.

    I'm 6'4" with long inseam (36"). I have a '62 Series 2 and fit in it quite well.....Albeit after a bit of work: I don't have lowered seat wells. I do have only 1" of very high density foam in the seat back. I have fabricated a .75" thick spacer for the clutch and brake master cylinders. This has effectively moved the clutch and brake pedals forward a couple of inches. I'm not sure of the exact distance. But it's enough to make it possible for me to get my knees and thighs under the instrument panel crossmember comfortably. I have adjusted the throttle cable and pedal stop so that the accelerator pedal lines up with the brake pedal. I have also fabricated a spacer for the small diameter (10") steering wheel to move it 2" further out from the instrument panel. For safety I have fabricated a taller roll bar to get 2" clearance after I have my helmet on.

    The roll bar and steering wheel spacer are visible here:


    The Caterham has individual seats. So going with early Lotus style seat cushions might provide a significant spatial improvement. The Cat also she the "long" cockpit. Again, this is another inch or so over my S2. My S2 doesn't have the corner brace in the cowl. So the Cat will have less knee room. But a steering wheel spacer might help somewhat in allowing a bit more wiggle room.

    Lack of diagonal instrument panel brace in S2 chassis visible here:


    Persistence and ingenuity may get you in there comfortably yet.
    Ron

    '14 Evora IPS
    '84 Turbo Esprit
    '77 S1 (deceased)
    '62 Lotus Seven S2 109E Cosworth

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    I was blessed with Caterham-perfect dimensions, but I can only imagine your pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Payne View Post
    I was blessed with Caterham-perfect dimensions, but I can only imagine your pain.
    Don't rub it in, lucky you! Even the motorcycles I lust over I don't fit well on ergonomically and look stupid with my torso and legs super folded over.

    Not giving up on the dream yet. Would still consider an S3 if it meant lowered floors/foam seats/adjustable pedals maxed out forwards.

    If all else fails and I don't want a possibly better fitting replica or an SV- I'd move onto finding a series one Lotus Elise or a TVR Tuscan/Tamora/T350 once they're legal in the states.

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    My 6’1” son.
    S3 with lowered floors and Tillet seats. I think you’ll fit and I personally find the seats comfortable even on longer drives, but padded seat inserts available and only add about 1” of height.






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    Wow, seeing that first photo makes an S3 with Tilletts/lowered floors look roomy for a tall driver like me!

    I think I'm ultimately going to decide on an S3 and find a way to make it work even if it means drastic measures like deepening the pedal box an inch or two/get a molded foam seat to fit my long legs. Shouts out to Astrobob for letting me try his lovely new Superlight R, the biggest issue I had was legroom (clearly having an inseam of 35''). We were unsure what position his pedals were in and the Tillett seat was maxed out backwards.

    Attached are some photos of me in his car, a lowered floor would definitely get my knees away from the dashboard crossbar- only problem I've got left is finding a way to straighten out my ankles as they're really bent backwards. There's a guy on the UK forum pistonheads who is 6'5'' with the same inseam as mine/size 13 feet and much heavier than I am who supposedly fits in his S3/Tilletts/lowered floor and the pedals are set midway from the three settings. Hearing that gave me hope.

    image3 by Amir Prses, on Flickr

    image2 by Amir Prses, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taber10 View Post
    My thoughts are that you should have your knees cut off for calling the SV "...goofy...."!
    Agreed.

    Here are a few pictures of my "goofy" Caterham 7 (photos by TED7).






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