Philly SCCA Autox 10/28/07 in Warminster, Pa.

[yellowss7]

Registration is now open for this coming Sunday's Autox in Warminster, Pa. Al, are you up for another shot at it weather permitting?? EvilRome0, is your car ready? Lance let your neighbor know about it, at least to meet a few other Se7eners.




http://www.phillyscca.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3417

[yellowss7]

Bump for Al & EvilRome0 (I know you're out there) Weather looks good. Hope to see you there. Tom

[Boxologist]

don't forget to page over the PA system again ;)

[yellowss7]

He's off the hook as we don't use the PA system at Warminster. :d But will EvilRome0 show up? :toetap: Tom

[Al Navarro]

I am officially and semi-gracefully bowing out of this one.

Laura reminded me (and herself!) last night that we have a wedding show up in the poconos to work. So, no Auto-X and no drive with Atwell and company. :cry:

[slngsht]

I am officially and semi-gracefully bowing out of this one.

Laura reminded me (and herself!) last night that we have a wedding show up in the poconos to work. So, no Auto-X and no drive with Atwell and company. :cry:

She might sign up a few more client contracts if the contract includes a free autox ride in a certain Orange car :D

[Boxologist]

hey hey, A,D,E, and F modified have competitors for saturdays NYR autoX. I'm pretty stoked for the long weekend. promotional exam friday AM and 2 end of season AutoXs over the weekend.

[yellowss7]

Good luck Jon! Unless EvilRome0 shows up, looks like it might just be me, a 62 Lotus and a 71 series IV at Warminster this weekend. Tom

[Al Navarro]

Look for an Orange Superformance S1 (don't know if he'll compete or just spectate) owned by Steve N. He contacted me via my carblog and said he'll show if the weather is good.

Hope to see you all in the Spring...Orange may be put up as window display at my friends' NYC shop for Dec-Feb.

[yellowss7]

I remember Steve's car, a nice pearlesent orange. He ran at Boeing a few years ago. Hope he shows, weather forecast is holding. Tom

[Boxologist]

looks like i'll be running in the wet. dunno whether i'll be using the full hood or half hood. if everyone shows up and uses r comps this should be interesting.

al, thats sounds awesome for Orange. But can u stand the separation?:cry:

[Al Navarro]

Crap Jon, you know I hardly drive the thing even when it's warm out!:d

I think it will show very well in their shop, a nice diversion from the string of Ferraris (and a great Aston Martin Lagonda) that have passed through. Though I'll have to wash it before putting it in.

[Boxologist]

u mean the diversions are Ferraris and Asston Martins.

[MHKflyer52]

Crap Jon, you know I hardly drive the thing even when it's warm out!:d

I think it will show very well in their shop, a nice diversion from the string of Ferraris (and a great Aston Martin Lagonda) that have passed through. Though I'll have to wash it before putting it in.

Hi Al an Jon,

I bet your 7 will get more attention than the others while being displayed (housed / stored).

[Boxologist]

1st day of autoX down. constant rain all morning and was a deluge at the awards ceremony. Started to dry out in the 3rd and 4th heats. started to rain just before my last (6th) run. times dropped in 1st heat then FTD 54.X sec GS Mini in the wet to 3rd geat 51.x FTD for a Pro Solo ES mkII MR2. i ran right around 60+1 1 secon on my runs in teh 2nd heat. i was able to drop 3 secs on my 1st run in the 4th heat when the surface was dry. spun 2x on the next run, and a 58 on my last run. spun in the lot putting some curbage on my front wheel. DOH!

should be awesome weather tomorrow across the east for some nice times.

[slngsht]

1st day of autoX down. constant rain all morning and was a deluge at the awards ceremony. Started to dry out in the 3rd and 4th heats. started to rain just before my last (6th) run. times dropped in 1st heat then FTD 54.X sec GS Mini in the wet to 3rd geat 51.x FTD for a Pro Solo ES mkII MR2. i ran right around 60+1 1 secon on my runs in teh 2nd heat. i was able to drop 3 secs on my 1st run in the 4th heat when the surface was dry. spun 2x on the next run, and a 58 on my last run. spun in the lot putting some curbage on my front wheel. DOH!

should be awesome weather tomorrow across the east for some nice times.

Did you damage the wheel?

[yellowss7]

Just got home from a long day at the Philly Autox in Warminster. Nice cool dry sunny day. :) Steve N. showed up with his stunning Lambo Orange Superformance S1. EvilRome0 (Roman) made an appearace, and the new owner of Lance's caterham was there as well. This 7 thing seams to be growing. :hurray: Missed you Al and Jon.

Tom

[Boxologist]

Did you damage the wheel?

1-2" minor curbage. nothing that would not happen eventually. easily covered by brake dust.


nabbed 1st in class (non marque -4 cyl - street tyre) at todays BMWCCA event. 5 secs off FTD, borrowed M3 on r comps by this years Rev It Up champion. spun the last 2 runs trying new ideas from an instructor, but did well enough in the morning heat. got 2 secs faster each run. pretty please with this season. maybe a Porsche Club next sunday at the beach to finish off the season seems like a pretty good idea. then a couple of weekends of illegal soapbox derbies in joisey for laffs.

I found out today that one of the local usual suspects (Z3 ins ASP form) is building a Locost BMC se7en. he's going on 2+ years after someone else already gave up on it. sounds like a diaster and a half at the moment.

i still can't shake the idea that i need R comps. granted it will cover a bunch faults, but I wanna be Ricky Bobby!

[EviLRome0]

hello, I was totally oblivious to this thread :( i thought people were ignoring me when i posted the same thing in the regional section.

first off id like to say that this is the first time ive had a chance to meet se7en people in person and it was great. everyone is very friendly and helpful to each other. i would like to thank Tom for letting me be a passenger (ballast) in his car during his second run, this will be something to remember. the S1 driven by steve was AMAZING build quality, definitely something to strive for as my se7en reaches closer for its second birth. i also got a chance to see lances old car, the 40th aniv and it was stunning, especially for its age.

here is an album with pictures from the event, sorry im not a photographer.

http://www.hostdub.com/GotEuroCorrado_album07

for those to lazy to click here are the highlights

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1118.sized.jpg (http://www.hostdub.com/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1118)
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1121.sized.jpg (http://www.hostdub.com/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1121)
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1102.sized.jpg (http://www.hostdub.com/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1102)
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1127.sized.jpg (http://www.hostdub.com/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1127)

[yellowss7]

Here's a pic of Roman providing excellent ballast, on run #2. :d Too bad you can't see the grin on his face.


http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/1643316364_IMG_3900.jpg

[slngsht]

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/GotEuroCorrado_album07/CIMG1118.sized.jpg

:cool:

[yellowss7]

Take a look at ORANGE S1's (Nick) avatar. Looks like exactly the same color. Tom

[Boxologist]

I don't want ot look at the S1. its too GORGEOUS:cool:

Tom, u running slicks of equal width F/R?

[yellowss7]

Yes Jon. 10 inch Hoosiers on 10 inch rims at all four corners. I've been told by some of the better drivers that the car is very neutral. You could go with 8 inch all around to get a little more heat in them faster. Don't know if that compromises your grip that much. I don't remember your HP level, but if you are running around 135-150 or so at the flywheel, I seem to recall the UK guys use less tire.

And you're right, that pearlesent Orange is awesome. I sat in Steve's on Sunday, it didn't seem as wide inside as yours, and the seats were Waaay too comfy. :d Can't wait for Steve to start Autoxing with us, he's been doing it for many years.

[Boxologist]

yeah, with lower power and larger diameter wheels i think i'll run 9" (225) in the rear and 8" (205) in the fornt and see if that limits my spins from oversteer. i seem to have had another spin due to understeer on sunday. I think the R comps will cover some off those faults. especially as the get traction again after getting loose. i think with too wide a front tyre it will make steering heavier that it needs to be with the lower power.

[yellowss7]

Jon, if you have a rear antirollbar, where is it set? If it's at the full forward postition you could soften it a bit by moving it to the rearward holes. Also what size front antiroll bar are you running? (What color bushing)? Tom

[Boxologist]

tom in action!

http://lh4.google.com/DaWeiPhotography/RycopDm0IVI/AAAAAAAAAQY/wyd7DjPF9HY/IMG_3730.jpg?imgmax=576

http://lh5.google.com/DaWeiPhotography/RycoqTm0IXI/AAAAAAAAAQo/Xiav90H2XM8/IMG_3732.jpg?imgmax=576

http://lh4.google.com/DaWeiPhotography/RycqfDm0K_I/AAAAAAAAAl4/h9IavdB8n7Y/IMG_3900.jpg?imgmax=576

the front sway has black bushings. the rear sway is set to the most outer holes of the bar. closest to the front, as the bar arcs to the rear. I beleive this is the softest setting.

[Boxologist]

answering teh question no one ever wants to ask again, how wet is an autoX in the rain...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/dangsr/gti/NJ0X9863med.jpg

action sequence of the GJ Dixon in water
action sequence of GJ Dixon in the wet. (http://www.freewebs.com/dangsr/gjdrifoo.gif)

[Kitcat]

Auto-x'ing in the rain is the easy part. It's working your corner and shagging cones in the rain for 2 hours that is tough!

[Al Navarro]

No kidding, I think I was midly hypothermic that afternoon. If it were not for Lance and Tom's good humor, I would have just laid down and died.

[yellowss7]

If you think a little rain is tough, come out to the Philly Region Winter Autox Series. The first picure is Ice and snow. Second is 10 inches of snow. Really. Not seven friendly. Tom


http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/975086853_winter autox.jpg

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/557840433_winter autox 2.jpg

[MHKflyer52]

If you think a little rain is tough, come out to the Philly Region Winter Autox Series. The first picure is Ice and snow. Second is 10 inches of snow. Really. Not seven friendly. Tom


http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/975086853_winter autox.jpg

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/557840433_winter autox 2.jpg

:crazy: You would never see that in SOCAL and I am glad of that.:d But you migth see this.
http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/585154752_DSCN1820.JPG
:jester:

[slngsht]

If you think a little rain is tough, come out to the Philly Region Winter Autox Series. The first picure is Ice and snow. Second is 10 inches of snow. Really. Not seven friendly. Tom


http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/975086853_winter autox.jpg

http://www.usa7s.com/aspnetforum/upload/557840433_winter autox 2.jpg

Finally an autox a STi can win :D

:surprised: before :boxing: ologist sees this

[Boxologist]

Mazda -
http://holunfie.blogspot.com/
Dan and a bunch of other STU EVO/STi drivers can put down some really awesome times locally. as fun as our se7ens. I dunno. they drool at my car and i drool at their skills. perhaps theres the answer.

Martin - u prove that he se7en is not just for fun behind the wheel!

Tom - they are considering trying to put on a snowX sometime, but there is never a guarentee of any actual snow here. i'd definitely be taking teh wagon out for that, even with me wary of the current clutch.

Shagging cones was not a issue saturday. i guess i was sort of prepared after seeing the pics and video from Wet Warminster Day! I ahd my rain coat and change of shoes plus a hat. i just wished i had brought a change of socks. I made sure i had my bright yellow rain jacket because i didn't need to get run over.

[yellowss7]

Here's a video of my 3 & 4 runs side by side. It's interesting to see where I lost time or made up time by pausing the video at differnt gates. Tom

RxDMLxzCyk4

[slngsht]

oh my lord... that place looks like it's pretty high speed. I might have to trek up there next year.

[slngsht]

oh my lord... that place looks like it's pretty high speed. I might have to trek up there next year.

[EviLRome0]

yea, he was movin all right. i could not even see where the cones were leading. i wonder what the fastest times were for that day.

[yellowss7]

An FMod did 55's, High 58's, low 59's for the best drivers in XP and SS.

[Boxologist]

oh my lord... that place looks like it's pretty high speed. I might have to trek up there next year.

that way a BBQ would be on the way home:cheers:

tom, the run on the right side of the screen looked like u were more on the throttle on the straighter sections. it did look like the run on the left was able to make it back up thru the harder turns. what were the times for both runs?

[slngsht]

An FMod did 55's, High 58's, low 59's for the best drivers in XP and SS.

What kind of speeds were you hitting?

[yellowss7]

Sorry Mazda, those number I gave were seconds, as in times. As for speed??? my speedo gave up the ghost long ago, and there's no way I could look down anyway. That's where I guess I need to invest in a data logger.

The Slaloms on the return side were flat out in 2nd gear, I'd guess close to 60++ mph. Sure felt like it. and I did shift to third for the finish once, so that could be close to 70 mph.

You would love Warminster, I just depends on the course set up. Sometimes the Vette guys design it and sometimes the Elise guys or Fmod guys do. Each likes to play to their strength, so it either becomes a power course or a transition course. Lucky for us, we have the power and handling to do either. And the bonus is they can never make it tight enough to pinch us, like the bigger cars. :d

Tom